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	<title>Comments on: Creation: A Conversation with Darwin&#8217;s Descendant</title>
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		<title>By: Randal Keynes</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2785</link>
		<dc:creator>Randal Keynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Filip, thanks for your comments on Emma. Yes, she&#039;s often skipped over. There&#039;s a good book about her life and all she did for Darwin, &#039;&#039;Emma Darwin, the Inspirational Wife of a Genius&#039; by Edna Healey, published in 2001. Edna Healey is the wife of Dennis Healey, the British Chancellor of the Exchequer through the UK&#039;s financial crises  of the 1970s. She understood about Emma&#039;s help to Darwin  after her own experience as wife of a great man living through difficult times.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filip, thanks for your comments on Emma. Yes, she&#8217;s often skipped over. There&#8217;s a good book about her life and all she did for Darwin, &#8221;Emma Darwin, the Inspirational Wife of a Genius&#8217; by Edna Healey, published in 2001. Edna Healey is the wife of Dennis Healey, the British Chancellor of the Exchequer through the UK&#8217;s financial crises  of the 1970s. She understood about Emma&#8217;s help to Darwin  after her own experience as wife of a great man living through difficult times.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Keynes</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2784</link>
		<dc:creator>Randal Keynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone who has joined in this discussion. It has been good to exchange ideas. Thanks for your interest in Darwin the man and I hope you enjoy &#039;Creation&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone who has joined in this discussion. It has been good to exchange ideas. Thanks for your interest in Darwin the man and I hope you enjoy &#8216;Creation&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Keynes</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2783</link>
		<dc:creator>Randal Keynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The box was Annie&#039;s writing case. After her death, Emma kept it, putting in a number of other things of Annie&#039;s to remember her by.
After she died, Annie&#039;s younger sister Etty, who was then in her forties, found it and it has been kept in the family ever since as Annie&#039;s Box.

I first saw the box one day in the 1990s when I was looking for Darwin material in a chest of drawers I knew to contain family odds and ends. The first thing I saw when I opened the box was a note in Darwin&#039;s handwriting headed &#039;Annie&#039;s illness&#039;. When I unfolded it I saw that he had been watching her every day during the illness and seeing how she was after the treatment she had been given first thing in the morning.
 I was surprised to find that Darwin had been so closely involved  in looking after Annie during the illness, and looked for what there was to read about his feelings for her through her childhood and after her
death.

I found the remarkable story I set out in my book. I wrote the book because I felt that the whole part of Darwin&#039;s life that Annie was part of, his care and love for his wife and children, was important
for an understanding of the man and his ideas about human nature, which were themselves important for his ideas about all human and natural life.

Finding the box shaped my life because it led me into the deep interest in Darwin which now takes me to Shrerwsbury where he spent his childhood, Galapagos and other wonderful places around the world that he visited on the Beagle voyage, and Down House where he went to live with Emma and their children and worked on his theory. I&#039;m lucky with my family link to Darwin. His life and work are a wonderful interest to find!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The box was Annie&#8217;s writing case. After her death, Emma kept it, putting in a number of other things of Annie&#8217;s to remember her by.<br />
After she died, Annie&#8217;s younger sister Etty, who was then in her forties, found it and it has been kept in the family ever since as Annie&#8217;s Box.</p>
<p>I first saw the box one day in the 1990s when I was looking for Darwin material in a chest of drawers I knew to contain family odds and ends. The first thing I saw when I opened the box was a note in Darwin&#8217;s handwriting headed &#8216;Annie&#8217;s illness&#8217;. When I unfolded it I saw that he had been watching her every day during the illness and seeing how she was after the treatment she had been given first thing in the morning.<br />
 I was surprised to find that Darwin had been so closely involved  in looking after Annie during the illness, and looked for what there was to read about his feelings for her through her childhood and after her<br />
death.</p>
<p>I found the remarkable story I set out in my book. I wrote the book because I felt that the whole part of Darwin&#8217;s life that Annie was part of, his care and love for his wife and children, was important<br />
for an understanding of the man and his ideas about human nature, which were themselves important for his ideas about all human and natural life.</p>
<p>Finding the box shaped my life because it led me into the deep interest in Darwin which now takes me to Shrerwsbury where he spent his childhood, Galapagos and other wonderful places around the world that he visited on the Beagle voyage, and Down House where he went to live with Emma and their children and worked on his theory. I&#8217;m lucky with my family link to Darwin. His life and work are a wonderful interest to find!</p>
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		<title>By: Filip Matous</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2771</link>
		<dc:creator>Filip Matous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. To be able to support her husband even though she had her own view points speaks highly of her character and dedication to being a good wife and the amount of courage and confidence she had to possess. I guess she is often skipped over as being an important part of the story.

Out of curiousity, do you have any upcoming London talks coming up? Would love to hear you speak in person as I feel you have a lot to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. To be able to support her husband even though she had her own view points speaks highly of her character and dedication to being a good wife and the amount of courage and confidence she had to possess. I guess she is often skipped over as being an important part of the story.</p>
<p>Out of curiousity, do you have any upcoming London talks coming up? Would love to hear you speak in person as I feel you have a lot to share.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhitu Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2769</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhitu Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Randal,

Your book when it first came out was called Annie’s Box, and it referred to the little box that belonged to Annie that contained her writings and other things she’d collected. I felt like the movie didn’t really explain the significance of that box, although if I remember correctly it does show the box a few times.

I’m curious to know more about how finding that box shaped your life. Can you tell us what was in the box? And how and when did you come across it? What about it made you want to write this book?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Randal,</p>
<p>Your book when it first came out was called Annie’s Box, and it referred to the little box that belonged to Annie that contained her writings and other things she’d collected. I felt like the movie didn’t really explain the significance of that box, although if I remember correctly it does show the box a few times.</p>
<p>I’m curious to know more about how finding that box shaped your life. Can you tell us what was in the box? And how and when did you come across it? What about it made you want to write this book?</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Keynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randal Keynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, interesting to wonder! I’d suggest that Darwin identified a natural process, evolution by natural selection, that takes place when organisms reproduce by pairing, then die and are succeeded by their offspring from generation to generation. Darwin showed how the process depends on the variation in each generation and the survival of the fittest in the struggle for existence. Keynes identified features of economic behaviour that stem from certain recurring human interests and actions, and suggested ways of avoiding or dealing with adverse situations. I don’t think Darwin would have expected the natural process he identified to have anything to do with the quite separate economic issues that Keynes dealt with. He would have been happy to leave them to economists! On the question about government intervention, he’d have wanted to know with all others interested in the general good what action could be hoped to produce the most humane results, but he wouldn’t have felt there was any way in which his theory about natural life could be used to suggest what it was right to do. He was always clear, I think, about the difference between points about how things are in the natural world and issues about what humans ought to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, interesting to wonder! I’d suggest that Darwin identified a natural process, evolution by natural selection, that takes place when organisms reproduce by pairing, then die and are succeeded by their offspring from generation to generation. Darwin showed how the process depends on the variation in each generation and the survival of the fittest in the struggle for existence. Keynes identified features of economic behaviour that stem from certain recurring human interests and actions, and suggested ways of avoiding or dealing with adverse situations. I don’t think Darwin would have expected the natural process he identified to have anything to do with the quite separate economic issues that Keynes dealt with. He would have been happy to leave them to economists! On the question about government intervention, he’d have wanted to know with all others interested in the general good what action could be hoped to produce the most humane results, but he wouldn’t have felt there was any way in which his theory about natural life could be used to suggest what it was right to do. He was always clear, I think, about the difference between points about how things are in the natural world and issues about what humans ought to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Keynes</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Randal Keynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this! Yes indeed on convictions, consequences and the courage Darwin needed. All shown so vividly in Paul Bettany’s wonderful performance. Jennifer Connelly also showed very movingly the great difficulty Emma faced in accepting what Darwin felt he had to do, and in supporting him when it came to publishing the book. I feel we all owe her fully as much thanks as we give him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this! Yes indeed on convictions, consequences and the courage Darwin needed. All shown so vividly in Paul Bettany’s wonderful performance. Jennifer Connelly also showed very movingly the great difficulty Emma faced in accepting what Darwin felt he had to do, and in supporting him when it came to publishing the book. I feel we all owe her fully as much thanks as we give him.</p>
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		<title>By: Filip Matous</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2758</link>
		<dc:creator>Filip Matous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently saw the movie (Creation) and saw Darwin in a new light. A man who had his convictions but knew the consequence of releasing his findings. It would be awfully tough to decide where or not to keep it a secret, as telling the truth would stir up the culture and possibly bring much unhappiness to the orthodox believers.

However I think that truth always wins down the line and thankfully he had the courage to present his findings, causing the number one thought/discovery to filter into our human history. More knowledge of our human condition allows for human progress.

I do question if I would have the courage or desire to do what he did if I were in his place. Painful both ways.

Fantastic movie and great discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently saw the movie (Creation) and saw Darwin in a new light. A man who had his convictions but knew the consequence of releasing his findings. It would be awfully tough to decide where or not to keep it a secret, as telling the truth would stir up the culture and possibly bring much unhappiness to the orthodox believers.</p>
<p>However I think that truth always wins down the line and thankfully he had the courage to present his findings, causing the number one thought/discovery to filter into our human history. More knowledge of our human condition allows for human progress.</p>
<p>I do question if I would have the courage or desire to do what he did if I were in his place. Painful both ways.</p>
<p>Fantastic movie and great discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Rhitu Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://www.world-science.org/forum/creation-conversation-charles-darwin-randal-keynes/comment-page-1/#comment-2756</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhitu Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those interested in learning more about John Maynard Keynes&#039;s work, see this story in Time Magazine. http://www.yachtingnet.com/time/time100/scientist/profile/keynes.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in learning more about John Maynard Keynes&#8217;s work, see this story in Time Magazine. <a href="http://www.yachtingnet.com/time/time100/scientist/profile/keynes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.yachtingnet.com/time/time100/scientist/profile/keynes.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: D Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, congratulations on the movie and best wishes on your work in the Galapagos and Down House.  

What most intrigues me is the contrasting ideas of your great-great-grandfather about the natural world and those of your great-uncle (John Maynard Keynes) about the unnatural world of economics.  I wonder what Darwin might have thought about the role of evolutionary processes in economies.  Given Darwin&#039;s stressful feelings over evolution vs. religion, did he see a conflicting line between the laws that apply to nature and the laws that apply to humanity?  And, in the context of Keynesian economics, what might Darwin have thought about governments intervening in markets and financial systems in which unfettered evolutionary/market forces don&#039;t always produce humane results?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, congratulations on the movie and best wishes on your work in the Galapagos and Down House.  </p>
<p>What most intrigues me is the contrasting ideas of your great-great-grandfather about the natural world and those of your great-uncle (John Maynard Keynes) about the unnatural world of economics.  I wonder what Darwin might have thought about the role of evolutionary processes in economies.  Given Darwin&#8217;s stressful feelings over evolution vs. religion, did he see a conflicting line between the laws that apply to nature and the laws that apply to humanity?  And, in the context of Keynesian economics, what might Darwin have thought about governments intervening in markets and financial systems in which unfettered evolutionary/market forces don&#8217;t always produce humane results?</p>
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